Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. Arkansas (1) Colorado (4) Connecticut (1) Pennsylvania (2) Virginia (2) Refine Your Search Results. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. No show. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. Until next time, cheers. This woman killed and is where she belongs! Just saying. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. He lived in 1910, at address, Connecticut. Pennsylvania troopers will take her to Bethlehem, Pa., today. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. Highly charged case. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. This woman was obsessed and jealous. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. They retested hair from the car in 2008 with updated new technology. I think shes guilty for sure. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. I would have liked better her being put to death! She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. Prosecutor pounds away. Byrd Jr. of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. False. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. Its totally irrelevant. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. Court records show she is incarcerated in the Lehigh County Jail. It is not necessary to the case against her that she owned the killing gun (and it would be foolish to have used it). Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. A spokesperson for Mr Tate told Mail Online that the 36-year-old was taken to a Romanian clinic because he was not allowed to be monitored by his chosen medical team in Dubai. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? Rorrer called Myers collect from the jail Tuesday afternoon. I hope she rots in hell. Your pathetic attempt to insult not only shows a not very original comment, but clearly displays a lack of intelligence. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). ``She was real good with kids, good to mine at least,' Jost said. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they . You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. ``They did the technical stuff, DNA testing and all that, and we did the grunt police work,' Hege said. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. The charges: two counts of kidnapping and two counts of murder. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. Some friends and neighbors find that hard to believe. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Search by Name Search . Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburgand High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina, when she was arrested in 1997. Resides in Bethlehem, PA. He was born in Bethlehem son of the late Martin. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. 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Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Tate reportedly had medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition before arrest, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Andrew Tates team claims he has a dark spot, most likely a tumour. Angry that Joann hung up on her, she stalked her for three days, then broke into her basement and cut the phone line, put a gun to Joanns head as she was placing Alex in the car, and forced her to drive to the rural area. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. Davidson County Sheriff's deputies helped with interviews, gathering evidence and checking alibis. I thought the same. On Alexs diaper bag, police found strands of the same type of hair from the car. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? An intensive search was launched, and family members distributed hundreds of missing-person flyers around Pennsylvania. The state police targeted Rorrer as a suspect that summer, and troopers traveled to North Carolina eight or nine times, Kohuth said. You should be ashamed of yourself. How would an intruder find it? After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. As Prince Harry says he felt like the film 'the boy in the bubble' before having therapy, who was 12-year-old David Vetter whose tragic story inspired the documentary? I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. You are absolutely right. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Nobody said bodies were intact. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. Copyright 2023 PeekYou.com. Combination locks. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in, Please refresh your browser to be logged in, Isabel Oakeshott terminates interview after clashing with presenter over Hancock leak. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? ``I told her I would see that her horses was tended to.'. He added: No official diagnosis has been confirmed and he is in good shape and is staying strong. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. Have you read the book? He was happy. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Andrew lived at address. Davidson County sheriff's deputies searched Rorrer's house in Linwood and volunteered to keep an eye on her after hours. The attorney, Craig Neely, also argues he has the testimony of a police officer who worked on the case to back up his claim, according to the report. Deputies watched the house as often as they could - from the woods, the road and even from the air. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. Mrs. Katrinak's husband, Andrew, reported his wife and son missing in December 1994 after they failed to show up at his mother's house. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it.